Argue the Toss

Argue the Toss - the geek and gaming podcast for Drew and Chella discuss the latest releases, trailers and news for games and other aspects of geek culture, with a particular focus on writing.
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Dec 8, 2016
S2 E24: Trailerama -  Last of Us 2

It's December, and you know what that means - it's time for a whole bunch of surprise Playstation announcements, apparently! This week's Argue The Toss is another trailer round-up, and we'd like to thank Sony for giving us something absolutely huge to headline with - The Last of Us Part 2.

The discussion starts with The Last Of Us Part 2. Did we want it? We're not sure. Are we getting it? Yes. Is Ellie's tattoo totally rad? We don't discuss that, but yeah, it is. Then it's a quick detour to The Game Awards to visit with Chella and Drew's respective favourites, Mass Effect: Andromeda and Death Stranding (now with added Mikkelsen), before returning to the Playstation Experience for new Uncharted and new Ni No Kuni. Try saying that five times fast.

Nov 30, 2016
Luke Cage

Sweet Christmas! After an impressive parade of technical issues, Argue The Toss is delighted to welcome back our now technically regular guest Corey Brotherson, for the third attempt at the second half of his first appearance.

This week the ATT daring duo and their plucky plus-one return to the Marvel Universe and hit the streets of Harlem with Luke Cage.

Nov 23, 2016
Season 2 - Episode 22 - TV Showdown - Westworld, Stranger Things, The Man In The High Castle

Another fortnight, another episode of Argue The Toss to incompetently smuggle into your ears. This week Chella and Drew return with another TV round-up, finally returning from the Upside-Down for the long-promised Stranger Things discussion.


Then it's time for a TV-show showdown, with each expounding the virtues of their newest binge watches. Drew saddles up to navigate the maze of Westworld, while Chella's been visiting The Man In The High Castle, and has come back to tell you whether it's something you should see, or something you should Nazi. Or maybe they'll both turn out to be turkeys (because Thanksgiving. Sorry. I'm real tired).

Nov 10, 2016
S2|E21: A Fistful of Controllers

Folk still tell tales of the day the stranger walked into town. Stood in the doors of the saloon like the shadow o' Death, hands poised over his two hip-slung holsters, where his weapons slept so lightly. All eyes upon him as he stalked towards the bar. Locked eyes with McGinty the bartender. And he spoke, in a voice that was sand, and drought, and Time.

"I'm here for the sheriff," the stranger said.

McGinty swallowed. A bead of sweat dripped from his jutting brow.

"Sheriff ain't been in this morning."

The stranger's draw was quick as lightning. Threw back the tails of his battle-scarred duster and whipped both of his armaments out of the holsters. They spun, once, in his hands. And then, with practised accuracy, he slid each one into the waiting grooves either side of his Nintendo Switch, flipped open the kickstand, and struck up a game of Mario Kart.

"That's OK," he said. "I'll wait."

This week Argue The Toss finally catches up with the flood of recent trailers, releases and announcements with a double-bill episode covering the announcement trailers for Red Dead Redemption 2 and Nintendo's new Switch console.

Oct 31, 2016
S2 | E20: Doctor Strange Film Review

Drew and Chella enter the world of Doctor Strange and deliver their verdict on the latest addition to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Chella gives the long-running comic fan's perspective, whilst Drew is a Doctor Strange virgin and offers a newcomer's take on the film.

Tune in for in-depth analysis of the things the film got right and where it went wrong, in this episode of Argue the Toss, the geek and gaming podcast for

This episode is spoiler-free for the first two thirds and then gives you an early warning before dropping the spoiler wall.



Oct 27, 2016
How to Get a Job in Gaming with Corey Brotherson

This week in Argue the Toss, Corey Brotherson flies into the studio to discuss his career writing about games and how he created and published his own comics series.

Drew and Chella find out just how you get a job working for Sony PlayStation and what it takes to move from comics nerd to writing your own stories and getting them published.

There may be some tangents discussing Silver Surfer, Doctor Strange and the polite length of time you can expect your other half to wait to go see the latest Marvel film.

This is Part One of a two-part interview with Corey. In Part Two Corey is back to discuss Luke Cage and Argue the Toss once more.

Find out more about Corey's comics @CoreyBrotherson

Oct 12, 2016
S2 | E17 - The Lovecast

It's October already, and as we close in on the spookiest day of the year, it's time to turn our attention to something truly terrifying - genuine human emotional connection. This week's Argue The Toss is all about romance.


Which games do romance right, and which get it wrong? The team have picked through their little black book of games, and invited a slew of potential suitors to grab the handles of the Love Tester machine, to find out who's Red Hot and who's just a Cold Fish.


Games discussed include Mass Effect, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Life Is Strange, Uncharted, and a reunion with the team's old flame - David Cage. Which digital darlings and pixel paramours will capture Chella and Drew's respective hearts? Spoilers: it isn't David Cage.

Sep 29, 2016
S2|E16 - Untangling Virginia

If you go down to the Kingdom woods, you're sure of a weird surprise. If you go down to those woods today, they're full of the FBI. 'Cause sleepy towns on 90s TV all hide dark secrets amidst the trees - Today's the day the team talk about Virginia.


This week Drew and Chella Argue the Toss about the debut game by developer Variable State - an ethereal, wordless first-person mystery thriller that's equal parts Twin Peaks, X-Files, Silence of the Lambs and the Outer Limits. Grab a cup of coffee - damn good coffee, and hot - and listen along.


Warning: Contains spoilers. Or does it? Isn't that all just down to interpretation?

Sep 14, 2016
S2 | E15 - Dorito TV
It's a dry week for releases, so, with no games afoot, the ATTeam turn to a very special genre - the episodic controllerless videogame, known to connoisseurs as 'television'.

 ​After a busy couple of weeks, Chella and Drew ​have returned to their homes to see what's on, and ​talk about shows that they always want one more bite of. ​Drew ​discusses his Elementary binge, while Chella delves even further into literary history with the BBC's adaptation of The Three Musketeers.

​Meanwhile, Drew tries to write a decent show blurb, realises he doesn't know any good Three Musketeers references, and ends up feeling like a Dumas.​
Sep 1, 2016
10 Things We Wish We'd Known When We Started No Man's Sky

Drew and Chella have been bumming around the universe in No Man's Sky, but they've been going about it all wrong. Luckily, space guide Barbie (a.k.a. editor) John Breeden is on hand with the tips every beginner needs to know before jumping into No Man's Sky.

What is an Atlas Pass and how do you get one? How did we get this far and not know about linking slots? And how is Drew like Captain Kirk in Star Trek Beyond? All these questions and more are answered right here, right now. So what are you waiting for?

Aug 18, 2016
S2|E13 - Inside Inside

This week, the ATTeam have been captured by mysterious men, torn apart by angry dogs, electrocuted by sentry robots, chased by rampant pigs and drowned by malevolent water children. They also both played Inside, which seemed like a more relevant topic for a podcast episode.


Have caution - the second half of this episode contains endgame spoilers. We'll warn you when to stop listening if you don't want to hear them.

Aug 2, 2016
S2 | E12 - Talking Virtual Reality with Doctor Wendy Powell

Regular reality's just not real enough, so this week Argue The Toss returns to the virtual, this time with a special guest! Dr. Wendy Powell, senior member of the IEEE and senior lecturer in applications of VR at the University of Portsmouth, is here to sherpa the team through realities both virtual and augmented.

Where are VR and AR technologies headed? How will they affect us and the way we socialise? What exciting new things can we do with them? What's the future of VR in treating psychological conditions? What negative aspects of VR should we be worried about? And why can't Drew catch a Dratini in Pokémon Go - the indicator says he's right on top of it but it just won't appear no matter where he stands?

All of these questions except one are answered herein. Special thanks to Wendy for joining us.

Jul 19, 2016
S2 | E11 - 6 Things We Want from Mass Effect Andromeda

Drew is on holiday, so Chella invites John Breeden (GiN editor) back on the show to talk about their favourite thing - Mass Effect.

Mass Effect Andromeda is set to release in March 2017, so Chella and John are discussing the things they want to see in the next space epic from BioWare. From space combat to better relationships and more alien cultures, they know what they've got a shopping list for the developers.

Let the team know your top wants for Mass Effect Andromeda, apart from a good ending, because we all want that.

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Jul 7, 2016
S2 | E10 - The Catch-up-cast

After the grueling task of watching and then talking about E3, the ATTeam have both been on sabbatical - one to the muddy fields of Glastonbury, and one to the bloody fields of Lordran.

Now the gang's back together, and there's just one burning question on their minds - "so, uh, what've you been up to, anyway?"

This week's ATT is a catch-all catch-up cast. The duo discuss Drew's newfound obsession with Dark Souls, chat about Oxenfree, The Beginner's Guide, 1979 Revolution, (Chella please insert any other games and things I've forgotten we talked about here), and finally sort out that whole Brexit mess. Join us for an episode as varied and delightful as Ryan Gosling is handsome and famous.

Stay tuned for the end, where we announce an upcoming Special Guest!

Jun 30, 2016
S2 | Ep01 - Firewatch

Chella kicks off Season 2 of Argue the Toss, the gaming podcast for, with a new host. Introducing Drew Moffatt, who joins Chella to discuss Camp Santo's indie explorathon, Firewatch. Join us for a wander through Wyoming's most famous game.

Jun 14, 2016
S2|Ep09 - E3 2016 Highlights

Drew and Chella are dissecting all the news from the press conferences at E3 2016. It's time to sort the gaming wheat from the chaff and pick the best bits. Think of this like a pocket sized guide to this year's E3. Except for Nintendo, who failed to get their conference finished on time for the recording.

They've watched all the trailers and listened to all the PR waffle, so you don't have to. You'll get much better quality waffle here.

Jun 8, 2016
S2|Ep08 - Uncharted 4

Drew and Chella discuss the highs and lows of Uncharted 4, in this episode of Argue the Toss - the gaming podcast for They get into the best bits, how Nathan Drake's last hurrah fits into the overall series, as well as covering what didn't work. They also determine that Drew is a better casting director than Chella.

Here be spoilers - major story elements are discussed in the second half.

May 26, 2016

Drew and Chella get into the Assassin's Creed movie trailer, discussing casting and whether there's a good story to be told. Will this be the great film of a game we've all been waiting for? Drew and Chella are here with the answers to this and other burning geek questions surrounding all things Assassin's Creed.

May 12, 2016

This episode of Argue the Toss sees Drew and Chella jump into the virtual world. Drew's invested in a VR set and he's giving the lowdown on the latest in gaming tech. The pros, cons, the best games and the best experiences to glean from VR - it's all here.

Apr 20, 2016

Drew and Chella take on the biggest games in archaeology. Yes, it's Uncharted vs Tomb Raider, in a feature length episode of Argue the Toss, the bitesize podcast for

Apr 15, 2016

Drew and Chella host the latest episode of Argue the Toss, the bitesize podcast for This week they're discussing the Star Wars Rogue One trailer with first reactions and hopes for the film ahead.