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Join Drew and Chella every other Thursday for in-depth discussions on games, trailers, technology and geek culture.

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Jun 15, 2017

E3 2O17 wasn't a show to end all shows, but the ATTeam still found something to argue about. Drew and Chella have distilled a week's worth of conferences, marketing bluster and hyperbole to create the E3 2017 definitive best games list.

You can argue with us in the comments, if we've failed to mention your best games, but that's probably because they're not THE best, as determined by Argue the Toss.

Jun 10, 2017

We give up. We can't carry on any longer. God knows we've tried to
stick to the brief and "argue about the things that really matter in
games". You know. The thing we say at the top of every show. But
here we are eleven episodes deep into season three and we've done,
what, three episodes about videogames? We can't keep lying to you
like this. We've altered the terms of the deal. And also we've altered
the thing we say at the top of every show. We think you'll be
pleasantly surprised. Or just normally surprised. Or not surprised.

This week the ATTeam have been to see DC's newest offering,
Wonder Woman - a film about an Amazon superhero from the
mystical island of Themyscira. Listen out for us taking pains to
avoid having to pronounce that name during the episode.

May 25, 2017

The ATTeam were on their way to record a podcast about video games this week (honest), but a neutrino surge somehow knocked their ship off course and they picked up a distress signal, and long story short it's films again. Join Chella and Drew as they explore the uncharted planet of Alien: Covenant, removing the helmets of uncertainty, wantonly kicking the fungus of knowledge, stopping to pee in the woods of enlightenment, and blowing up the shuttle of... cinematography appreciation(?).

This extra-value episode is as packed with content as John Hurt's chest was packed with Xenomorph, and also contains discussion of Alien 3, Alien: Resurrection and Prometheus - everyone's three favourite Alien films - at no extra charge.

Listen up as Drew and Chella review Alien Covenant and then rank it among the whole Alien franchise (excluding AvP). Where do they rank it and do you agree?

May 11, 2017

You’re on a bus browsing Twitter on your phone when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a notification, there's a new episode of Argue the Toss. You reach down, you hit the icon for your preferred podcast player. The episode sits there in the list, its progress bar at 0%, desperately fighting to be played, but it can’t, not without your pressing Play. But you’re not pressing Play. Why is that? Is it because this Voight-Kampff blurb conceit ran out of steam about three sentences ago?

This week Chella and Drew have travelled to the far-flung future of 2049 to watch the trailer for Blade Runner 2049, the sequel to the original Blade Runner, which takes place in the far-flung future of two years from now. They return with deep and well-considered opinions, and also a sports almanac I'm not supposed to tell anybody about.

Note: Apologies for technical issues on this episode. We are working to fix this for future casts.

Apr 27, 2017

In a surprise move, this week's episode of video game podcast Argue The Toss covers the obscure, niche topic that is: recent video games.

It's not even a slight exaggeration to say that this past March saw the release of a cornucoplentiful, quantitobountiful plethorabundance of games, including several must-play 60-hour-plus open world games. Even using a superefficient and meticulously planned schedule, the ATTeam weren't able to play everything - so they didn't even consider making one.

Each host has been visiting a different world, with Drew making a return to Hyrule to save the usual princess in The Legend Of Zelda - Breath Of The Wild, while Chella has been spending her time slaying robot dinosaurs in Horizon: Zero Dawn and regular robots in NiER: Automata. They've also both been making trips to some slightly smaller worlds, and discuss the text-adventure horror anthology Stories Untold and the 2D-platform adventure mystery Night In The Woods.

Mar 30, 2017

Marvel have finally rounded out their Defenders line-up with their series about literally everybody's favourite superhero - Iron Fist. As always, Chella and Drew have dived in and return with deeply researched and well-considered opinions about... well, we only watched the first couple episodes. I mean, come on, have you /seen/ how many amazing games came out this month? We've only got so much time! Leave us alone!

Which of the team will be best able to relate to a schlubby, dishevelled twenty-something white dude who is also super excellent at kung fu? Is OutKast's "So Fresh, So Clean" a really on-the-nose song choice for Danny Rand's introduction scene? Will Iron Fist be able to defeat his famous arch-nemesis, The Concept Of Explaining Himself Properly? Find out in this very special* Argue The Toss.


Mar 2, 2017





Feb 16, 2017
S3 | E4: 7 Best Indie Games of 2017

Turning their backs on the glitz and glamour of the AAA, mainstream game release schedule, Drew and Chella wade through the thick forest of indie games. They've picked the 7 best indie games of 2017, saving you the time and heartache of doing it yourself.

Drew's list is an eclectic mix of space drama, point and click with a heavy dose of 80s nostalgia, all via 1930s cartoons. What can we say, he's a guy who's tough to pin down.

Chella's list veers from horror, through to dark mystery, whimsy and yet more mystery, with a touch of Twin Peaks - because everything seems to have a touch of Twin Peaks these days. Sometimes dark, but always beautiful, these are the indies with style and substance.

Games mentioned:

What Remains of Edith Finch

Cup Head

Night in the Woods

Thimbleweed Park

Hello Neighbor




Chat with the team:

Jan 31, 2017
TV Addictions 2017

The motel, when Richard eventually found it, was in a poorish state of repair, but no worse than most of the rest. The doorway had been painted, not well, but at least recently. The most striking feature of the door, however, was the bold and shiny brass plaque fixed in the dead centre of it, on which was engraved the legend:

We do the whole crime
We kill the whole person
(Missing women and nosy detectives a speciality)
Bates Motel, White Pine Bay

This week the ATTeam discuss their most recent binge-watches - Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (Netflix) and Bates Motel (A&E, Netflix).

Jan 19, 2017
S3 E2: A Nintendo Switch in Time

Time to discuss the Nintendo Switch. The story so far...

In the 1970s, Magnavox released the Odyssey - very first video game console. Since then, every element of videogaming has improved a thousandfold. Graphics now verge on the photorealistic. Uncompressed, lossless 5.1 audio plays from our speakers. Controllers sense our movement accurately in real-time, if we need a controller at all - but we've never fully achieved the original dream of those visionary Magnavox engineers - a controller which can successfully convince us that we're holding a glass with an ice cube in it or two ice cubes or two ice cubes and some water.

Until now.

In this week's episode, Chella and Drew share their thoughts on Nintendo's newest video game console and cocktail simulator, the Nintendo Switch.

Jan 4, 2017
Season III - Episode I A NEW SEASON



It is a period of Christmas cheer.

Rebel podcasters, Skyping between

hidden bases, have recorded their

first episode beyond the eventful

year 2016.


During the holiday, the rebel cinephiles managed to catch a showing of the new Star Wars film, ROGUE ONE, the awaited spin-off with enough hype to split an entire fandom down the middle.


Pursued by their sinister Thursday deadline, Chella and Drew race home toward their listenership, custodians of the hottest takes that can inform the people... about whether the film is any good, I guess?


Oh, also, spoiler warning.

Dec 8, 2016
S2 E24: Trailerama -  Last of Us 2

It's December, and you know what that means - it's time for a whole bunch of surprise Playstation announcements, apparently! This week's Argue The Toss is another trailer round-up, and we'd like to thank Sony for giving us something absolutely huge to headline with - The Last of Us Part 2.

The discussion starts with The Last Of Us Part 2. Did we want it? We're not sure. Are we getting it? Yes. Is Ellie's tattoo totally rad? We don't discuss that, but yeah, it is. Then it's a quick detour to The Game Awards to visit with Chella and Drew's respective favourites, Mass Effect: Andromeda and Death Stranding (now with added Mikkelsen), before returning to the Playstation Experience for new Uncharted and new Ni No Kuni. Try saying that five times fast.

Nov 30, 2016
Luke Cage

Sweet Christmas! After an impressive parade of technical issues, Argue The Toss is delighted to welcome back our now technically regular guest Corey Brotherson, for the third attempt at the second half of his first appearance.

This week the ATT daring duo and their plucky plus-one return to the Marvel Universe and hit the streets of Harlem with Luke Cage.

Nov 23, 2016
Season 2 - Episode 22 - TV Showdown - Westworld, Stranger Things, The Man In The High Castle

Another fortnight, another episode of Argue The Toss to incompetently smuggle into your ears. This week Chella and Drew return with another TV round-up, finally returning from the Upside-Down for the long-promised Stranger Things discussion.


Then it's time for a TV-show showdown, with each expounding the virtues of their newest binge watches. Drew saddles up to navigate the maze of Westworld, while Chella's been visiting The Man In The High Castle, and has come back to tell you whether it's something you should see, or something you should Nazi. Or maybe they'll both turn out to be turkeys (because Thanksgiving. Sorry. I'm real tired).

Nov 10, 2016
S2|E21: A Fistful of Controllers

Folk still tell tales of the day the stranger walked into town. Stood in the doors of the saloon like the shadow o' Death, hands poised over his two hip-slung holsters, where his weapons slept so lightly. All eyes upon him as he stalked towards the bar. Locked eyes with McGinty the bartender. And he spoke, in a voice that was sand, and drought, and Time.

"I'm here for the sheriff," the stranger said.

McGinty swallowed. A bead of sweat dripped from his jutting brow.

"Sheriff ain't been in this morning."

The stranger's draw was quick as lightning. Threw back the tails of his battle-scarred duster and whipped both of his armaments out of the holsters. They spun, once, in his hands. And then, with practised accuracy, he slid each one into the waiting grooves either side of his Nintendo Switch, flipped open the kickstand, and struck up a game of Mario Kart.

"That's OK," he said. "I'll wait."

This week Argue The Toss finally catches up with the flood of recent trailers, releases and announcements with a double-bill episode covering the announcement trailers for Red Dead Redemption 2 and Nintendo's new Switch console.

Oct 31, 2016
S2 | E20: Doctor Strange Film Review

Drew and Chella enter the world of Doctor Strange and deliver their verdict on the latest addition to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Chella gives the long-running comic fan's perspective, whilst Drew is a Doctor Strange virgin and offers a newcomer's take on the film.

Tune in for in-depth analysis of the things the film got right and where it went wrong, in this episode of Argue the Toss, the geek and gaming podcast for

This episode is spoiler-free for the first two thirds and then gives you an early warning before dropping the spoiler wall.



Oct 27, 2016
How to Get a Job in Gaming with Corey Brotherson

This week in Argue the Toss, Corey Brotherson flies into the studio to discuss his career writing about games and how he created and published his own comics series.

Drew and Chella find out just how you get a job working for Sony PlayStation and what it takes to move from comics nerd to writing your own stories and getting them published.

There may be some tangents discussing Silver Surfer, Doctor Strange and the polite length of time you can expect your other half to wait to go see the latest Marvel film.

This is Part One of a two-part interview with Corey. In Part Two Corey is back to discuss Luke Cage and Argue the Toss once more.

Find out more about Corey's comics @CoreyBrotherson

Oct 12, 2016
S2 | E17 - The Lovecast

It's October already, and as we close in on the spookiest day of the year, it's time to turn our attention to something truly terrifying - genuine human emotional connection. This week's Argue The Toss is all about romance.


Which games do romance right, and which get it wrong? The team have picked through their little black book of games, and invited a slew of potential suitors to grab the handles of the Love Tester machine, to find out who's Red Hot and who's just a Cold Fish.


Games discussed include Mass Effect, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Life Is Strange, Uncharted, and a reunion with the team's old flame - David Cage. Which digital darlings and pixel paramours will capture Chella and Drew's respective hearts? Spoilers: it isn't David Cage.

Sep 29, 2016
S2|E16 - Untangling Virginia

If you go down to the Kingdom woods, you're sure of a weird surprise. If you go down to those woods today, they're full of the FBI. 'Cause sleepy towns on 90s TV all hide dark secrets amidst the trees - Today's the day the team talk about Virginia.


This week Drew and Chella Argue the Toss about the debut game by developer Variable State - an ethereal, wordless first-person mystery thriller that's equal parts Twin Peaks, X-Files, Silence of the Lambs and the Outer Limits. Grab a cup of coffee - damn good coffee, and hot - and listen along.


Warning: Contains spoilers. Or does it? Isn't that all just down to interpretation?

Sep 14, 2016
S2 | E15 - Dorito TV
It's a dry week for releases, so, with no games afoot, the ATTeam turn to a very special genre - the episodic controllerless videogame, known to connoisseurs as 'television'.

 ​After a busy couple of weeks, Chella and Drew ​have returned to their homes to see what's on, and ​talk about shows that they always want one more bite of. ​Drew ​discusses his Elementary binge, while Chella delves even further into literary history with the BBC's adaptation of The Three Musketeers.

​Meanwhile, Drew tries to write a decent show blurb, realises he doesn't know any good Three Musketeers references, and ends up feeling like a Dumas.​
Sep 1, 2016
10 Things We Wish We'd Known When We Started No Man's Sky

Drew and Chella have been bumming around the universe in No Man's Sky, but they've been going about it all wrong. Luckily, space guide Barbie (a.k.a. editor) John Breeden is on hand with the tips every beginner needs to know before jumping into No Man's Sky.

What is an Atlas Pass and how do you get one? How did we get this far and not know about linking slots? And how is Drew like Captain Kirk in Star Trek Beyond? All these questions and more are answered right here, right now. So what are you waiting for?

Aug 18, 2016
S2|E13 - Inside Inside

This week, the ATTeam have been captured by mysterious men, torn apart by angry dogs, electrocuted by sentry robots, chased by rampant pigs and drowned by malevolent water children. They also both played Inside, which seemed like a more relevant topic for a podcast episode.


Have caution - the second half of this episode contains endgame spoilers. We'll warn you when to stop listening if you don't want to hear them.

Aug 2, 2016
S2 | E12 - Talking Virtual Reality with Doctor Wendy Powell

Regular reality's just not real enough, so this week Argue The Toss returns to the virtual, this time with a special guest! Dr. Wendy Powell, senior member of the IEEE and senior lecturer in applications of VR at the University of Portsmouth, is here to sherpa the team through realities both virtual and augmented.

Where are VR and AR technologies headed? How will they affect us and the way we socialise? What exciting new things can we do with them? What's the future of VR in treating psychological conditions? What negative aspects of VR should we be worried about? And why can't Drew catch a Dratini in Pokémon Go - the indicator says he's right on top of it but it just won't appear no matter where he stands?

All of these questions except one are answered herein. Special thanks to Wendy for joining us.

Jul 19, 2016
S2 | E11 - 6 Things We Want from Mass Effect Andromeda

Drew is on holiday, so Chella invites John Breeden (GiN editor) back on the show to talk about their favourite thing - Mass Effect.

Mass Effect Andromeda is set to release in March 2017, so Chella and John are discussing the things they want to see in the next space epic from BioWare. From space combat to better relationships and more alien cultures, they know what they've got a shopping list for the developers.

Let the team know your top wants for Mass Effect Andromeda, apart from a good ending, because we all want that.

Chat with the team:


Jul 7, 2016
S2 | E10 - The Catch-up-cast

After the grueling task of watching and then talking about E3, the ATTeam have both been on sabbatical - one to the muddy fields of Glastonbury, and one to the bloody fields of Lordran.

Now the gang's back together, and there's just one burning question on their minds - "so, uh, what've you been up to, anyway?"

This week's ATT is a catch-all catch-up cast. The duo discuss Drew's newfound obsession with Dark Souls, chat about Oxenfree, The Beginner's Guide, 1979 Revolution, (Chella please insert any other games and things I've forgotten we talked about here), and finally sort out that whole Brexit mess. Join us for an episode as varied and delightful as Ryan Gosling is handsome and famous.

Stay tuned for the end, where we announce an upcoming Special Guest!

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