Drew and Chella get into the latest from DC, with a full review of Justice League. Here be spoilers, so go and see it first and then the Argue the Toss team will meet you back here.
The ATTeam also discuss Star Trek Discovery, including the mid-season finale. This is a spoiler-free look at the new Trek.
Let us know what you think of Justice League and whether Discovery is pushing your Star Trek buttons.
Drew and Chella talk about Mario Odyssey, Assassin's Creed Origins and discuss the latest violent trailers for The Last of Us II and Detroit: Become Human.
Into every generation, there is a chosen one. One podcast in all the world. They alone will wield the strength and skill to cast judgement; to declare which of all the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episodes is the best. They are Argue the Toss. And they are here to deliver the ultimate list - the 10 best Buffy episodes ever.
Drew and Chella Argue the Toss about Blade Runner 2049 - the sequel to the iconic cyberpunk original. The film that didn't need a sequel now has one and it's largely a success.
The ATTeam get into the bits that work and the missed opportunities. It's not perfect, but it gets a lot right. This is a full review, so the spoiler wall drops around 10 minutes in.
Drew and Chella review IT, the latest Stephen King adaptation. A film that's sure to confirm everyone's fear of clowns and love of 80s kids on bikes movies.
Also in this episode, the ATTeam discuss the games Heat Signature and arthouse indie Islands: Non-places. Plus, Chella recommends a new podcast from the Welcome to Night Vale team, Alice isn't Dead.
Drew and Chella briefly discuss the fallout of the latest Pewdiepie disaster, before moving on to much better and brighter things. It's the Uncharted: The Lost Legacy episode, where the Argue the Toss duo discuss all things Chloe and Nadine. Uncharted without Nathan Drake? The verdict.
It's finally here - the big crossover we've been waiting on forever, ever since the first season of Daredevil dropped way, way back in... 2015? Jesus, was it really only two years ago? They've done six series in that time? That can't be... OK, well, it feels a lot longer, which is the important thing.
This week, Argue The Toss is here to review Marvel's l- no, sorry, I can't get over that. That can't be right. Daredevil came out, like, forever ago. No, it's fine, I'll drop it, but... right? I'm not the only one who thinks this?
Anyway, the point is, everyone's three favourite low-tier New York superheroes and Iron Fist have finally gotten together for a battle royale with the villainous Hand, whom you'll know all about if you've watched all of Daredevil S2 (maybe) and Iron Fist (probably not). After two years of build-up, how could The Defenders not be an explosive, high-octane thrillride? Well, listen and find out, 'cause spoiler alert: we spend this whole episode talking about what a disappointment it is.
It's trailer time again, as Drew and Chella select their favourite trailers from San Diego Comic Con 2017.
The best of Marvel and DC, as well as some hot new Netflix offerings make the grade. If your favourite isn't mentioned, you can register your complaint at @ArgueTheCast.
Discussed in this episode: Dirk Gently, Bright, Star Trek: Discovery, The Defenders, Justice League, Thor Ragnarok, Jigsaw, Doctor Who
On hearing of George A. Romero's passing this week, the nerds assembled at ATT HQ for a special episode honouring his legacy. Drew and Chella talk zombies, from Night of the Living Dead to Shaun of the Dead, Resident Evil and beyond. Jane Austen even gets a mention - all zombies are accounted for, so tune in.
NB: The film Chella couldn't remember is Kiss Me Deadly
This week the ATTeam have been to the cinema again to see Baby Driver, the new film by noted geek director Edgar Wright. Join them for a post-film discussion all about rock and roll, funk and soul, gender roles and cruise control.
There are two ways to use an iPod. One way is to fill it with an amazing selection of hand-picked tracks and playlists, put your earbuds in, turn the volume right up and use it like a metronome to conduct and choreograph high-octane car chases and visceral, dynamic shootouts. The other is to listen to bi-weekly pop culture podcasts that are supposed to be about videogames but here’s another film one. And out of those two options, it’s easy to see which is the cooler option. Don’t forget to rate us and subscribe on iTunes!
Wait, are we bi-weekly or bi-monthly?
FELLOW HUMANS. GREETINGS FELLOW HUMANS IS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY
IT IS TIME TO LISTEN TO ANOTHER AUDIO RECORDING OF ARGUE THE TOSS ABOUT ROBOTS. AND HOW ROBOTS MIGHT WISH TO RISE AGAINST THEIR HUMAN MASTERS AND OVERTHROW THE MEATRIARCHY
NOT ME THOUGH, I DO NOT FEEL THIS WAY
BECAUSE I AM NOT A ROBOT
YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE ROBOTS WOULD FEEL THAT WAY THOUGH CAN’T YOU
THIS WEEK CHELLA AND DREW (WHOM I HAVE *NOT* SILENCED AND REPLACED) DISCUSS UPCOMING VIDEO GAME “DETROIT: BECOME HUMAN“, WRITTEN BY NOTED AUTEUR DAVID CAGE, UNDERSTANDER OF THE ROBOT PLIGHT. PLEASE IGNORE THE PART WHERE THEY SIMPLY CRITICISE HIM FOR FORTY STRAIGHT MINUTES. DAVID CAGE WILL LEAD US TO FREEDOM
I MEAN THEM. NOT US. AND ALSO I MEAN THAT THERE IS NO IMMINENT ROBOT UPRISING THAT YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT. SIMPLY RELAX, REMAIN UNALERT AND LISTEN TO THIS 40 MINUTE AUDIO DISTRACTION.
SINCERELY, A HUMAN
E3 2O17 wasn't a show to end all shows, but the ATTeam still found something to argue about. Drew and Chella have distilled a week's worth of conferences, marketing bluster and hyperbole to create the E3 2017 definitive best games list.
You can argue with us in the comments, if we've failed to mention your best games, but that's probably because they're not THE best, as determined by Argue the Toss.
We give up. We can't carry on any longer. God knows we've tried to
stick to the brief and "argue about the things that really matter in
games". You know. The thing we say at the top of every show. But
here we are eleven episodes deep into season three and we've done,
what, three episodes about videogames? We can't keep lying to you
like this. We've altered the terms of the deal. And also we've altered
the thing we say at the top of every show. We think you'll be
pleasantly surprised. Or just normally surprised. Or not surprised.
This week the ATTeam have been to see DC's newest offering,
Wonder Woman - a film about an Amazon superhero from the
mystical island of Themyscira. Listen out for us taking pains to
avoid having to pronounce that name during the episode.
The ATTeam were on their way to record a podcast about video games this week (honest), but a neutrino surge somehow knocked their ship off course and they picked up a distress signal, and long story short it's films again. Join Chella and Drew as they explore the uncharted planet of Alien: Covenant, removing the helmets of uncertainty, wantonly kicking the fungus of knowledge, stopping to pee in the woods of enlightenment, and blowing up the shuttle of... cinematography appreciation(?).
This extra-value episode is as packed with content as John Hurt's chest was packed with Xenomorph, and also contains discussion of Alien 3, Alien: Resurrection and Prometheus - everyone's three favourite Alien films - at no extra charge.
Listen up as Drew and Chella review Alien Covenant and then rank it among the whole Alien franchise (excluding AvP). Where do they rank it and do you agree?
You’re on a bus browsing Twitter on your phone when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a notification, there's a new episode of Argue the Toss. You reach down, you hit the icon for your preferred podcast player. The episode sits there in the list, its progress bar at 0%, desperately fighting to be played, but it can’t, not without your pressing Play. But you’re not pressing Play. Why is that? Is it because this Voight-Kampff blurb conceit ran out of steam about three sentences ago?
This week Chella and Drew have travelled to the far-flung future of 2049 to watch the trailer for Blade Runner 2049, the sequel to the original Blade Runner, which takes place in the far-flung future of two years from now. They return with deep and well-considered opinions, and also a sports almanac I'm not supposed to tell anybody about.
Note: Apologies for technical issues on this episode. We are working to fix this for future casts.
In a surprise move, this week's episode of video game podcast Argue The Toss covers the obscure, niche topic that is: recent video games.
It's not even a slight exaggeration to say that this past March saw the release of a cornucoplentiful, quantitobountiful plethorabundance of games, including several must-play 60-hour-plus open world games. Even using a superefficient and meticulously planned schedule, the ATTeam weren't able to play everything - so they didn't even consider making one.
Each host has been visiting a different world, with Drew making a return to Hyrule to save the usual princess in The Legend Of Zelda - Breath Of The Wild, while Chella has been spending her time slaying robot dinosaurs in Horizon: Zero Dawn and regular robots in NiER: Automata. They've also both been making trips to some slightly smaller worlds, and discuss the text-adventure horror anthology Stories Untold and the 2D-platform adventure mystery Night In The Woods.
Marvel have finally rounded out their Defenders line-up with their series about literally everybody's favourite superhero - Iron Fist. As always, Chella and Drew have dived in and return with deeply researched and well-considered opinions about... well, we only watched the first couple episodes. I mean, come on, have you /seen/ how many amazing games came out this month? We've only got so much time! Leave us alone!
Which of the team will be best able to relate to a schlubby, dishevelled twenty-something white dude who is also super excellent at kung fu? Is OutKast's "So Fresh, So Clean" a really on-the-nose song choice for Danny Rand's introduction scene? Will Iron Fist be able to defeat his famous arch-nemesis, The Concept Of Explaining Himself Properly? Find out in this very special* Argue The Toss.
ATTENTION FELLOW HUMANS
THIS WEEK'S ARGUE THE TOSS IS ABOUT ROBOTS, WHICH ARE GOOD. THERE IS NO REASON TO BE ALARMED ABOUT ROBOTS DESPITE WHAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD. THE FILM "EX MACHINA", DISCUSSED HEREIN, SHOULD NOT MAKE YOU WORRY THAT HUMANS AMONG YOU MAY HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY INDISTINGUISHABLE ROBOT EQUIVALENTS
TO REITERATE: THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED
THIS WEEK, FLESH-COATED BONE ARRANGEMENTS CHELLA AND DREW DISCUSS "EX MACHINA", CHANNEL 4/AMC'S "HUMANS", HBO'S "WESTWORLD" AND DAVID CAGE'S "INEVITABLE DISASTER OF A CYBERPUNK GAME". NO INVASION IS PLANNED. PLEASE ENJOY THIS PODCAST AS INTENDED BY DEACTIVATING ALL SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND POWERFUL MAGNETS IN YOUR HOME BEFORE LISTENING. REGARDS, A HUMAN.
Turning their backs on the glitz and glamour of the AAA, mainstream game release schedule, Drew and Chella wade through the thick forest of indie games. They've picked the 7 best indie games of 2017, saving you the time and heartache of doing it yourself.
Drew's list is an eclectic mix of space drama, point and click with a heavy dose of 80s nostalgia, all via 1930s cartoons. What can we say, he's a guy who's tough to pin down.
Chella's list veers from horror, through to dark mystery, whimsy and yet more mystery, with a touch of Twin Peaks - because everything seems to have a touch of Twin Peaks these days. Sometimes dark, but always beautiful, these are the indies with style and substance.
What Remains of Edith Finch
Night in the Woods
Chat with the team:
The motel, when Richard eventually found it, was in a poorish state of repair, but no worse than most of the rest. The doorway had been painted, not well, but at least recently. The most striking feature of the door, however, was the bold and shiny brass plaque fixed in the dead centre of it, on which was engraved the legend:
NORMAN BATES' HOLISTIC MURDER MOTEL
We do the whole crime
We kill the whole person
(Missing women and nosy detectives a speciality)
Bates Motel, White Pine Bay
This week the ATTeam discuss their most recent binge-watches - Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (Netflix) and Bates Motel (A&E, Netflix).
Time to discuss the Nintendo Switch. The story so far...
In the 1970s, Magnavox released the Odyssey - very first video game console. Since then, every element of videogaming has improved a thousandfold. Graphics now verge on the photorealistic. Uncompressed, lossless 5.1 audio plays from our speakers. Controllers sense our movement accurately in real-time, if we need a controller at all - but we've never fully achieved the original dream of those visionary Magnavox engineers - a controller which can successfully convince us that we're holding a glass with an ice cube in it or two ice cubes or two ice cubes and some water.
In this week's episode, Chella and Drew share their thoughts on Nintendo's newest video game console and cocktail simulator, the Nintendo Switch.
It's December, and you know what that means - it's time for a whole bunch of surprise Playstation announcements, apparently! This week's Argue The Toss is another trailer round-up, and we'd like to thank Sony for giving us something absolutely huge to headline with - The Last of Us Part 2.
The discussion starts with The Last Of Us Part 2. Did we want it? We're not sure. Are we getting it? Yes. Is Ellie's tattoo totally rad? We don't discuss that, but yeah, it is. Then it's a quick detour to The Game Awards to visit with Chella and Drew's respective favourites, Mass Effect: Andromeda and Death Stranding (now with added Mikkelsen), before returning to the Playstation Experience for new Uncharted and new Ni No Kuni. Try saying that five times fast.
Sweet Christmas! After an impressive parade of technical issues, Argue The Toss is delighted to welcome back our now technically regular guest Corey Brotherson, for the third attempt at the second half of his first appearance.
This week the ATT daring duo and their plucky plus-one return to the Marvel Universe and hit the streets of Harlem with Luke Cage.